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#4921 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Set-List » 533 weeks ago
Gagarin wrote:whatever song that will end up being played and some forum poster will end up moving the goal post anyway.
Except the people complaining aren't the ones moving the goal posts: it's the exact same complaint as in '06,'08/'09.
The crux of the complaint is that the set lists are indicative of the general malaise and lazy attitude that has infected GnR for the past 25 years.
There is clearly supercilious thinking going on, that whatever's being presented is "good enough" & we should somehow be grateful for even that?! WHAT?! & there's little effort made to go above and beyond. & people have a right to expect that, why should the band or the fans settle for "ok that's good enough", asif merely being in their presence is some kind of privilege?! Not for me well. I don't think the sunshines out of axls fat hole.Good for you lot who are glad to accept whatever they feed you, it doesn't mean others don't have legitimate questions of the organisation.
& why shouldn't people be allowed to express an opinion, & if you're so content why let it bother you anyway?
It's funny how you can OMG and spunk yer load to Coma but it's somehow less legitimate for someone to do likewise to TWAT or Back off Bitch?! That doesn't seem very fair..Surely given that these are stadium shows with 40-60,000 then statistically it's more likely more people will have seen the show online or be going to multiple gigs that the 5-8,000 that turned up for the arena shows with axl & his travelling circus..??
Meh. It is what it is. I didn't even want to get into this fight really. I've long since accepted the slack attitude of Axl to the brand. I'm just saying that the set list is just one of many indicators of the attitude at play - both from the owners & from the people/fans who accept it. It's clearly not a fight I'll ever win, I learned that a long time ago. Or at least I thought I did.. I'm just beatin a dead horse..
I really do find this quote compelling because there is so much truth to it. It gets to the heart of what I always called this...the "cash grab tour."
I even felt this way as I was walking up to Soldier field on Friday. The emotions were truly all over the place. I was so happy and grateful that this was happening. I was angry and sad it hadn't happened sooner. I was so thankful to have this band in my life. I was upset and pissed that there could have been so much more.
In the end...I just tried to focus on the positive feelings.
#4922 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1/7/16 SOLDIER FIELD, CHICAGO, IL UNITED STATES » 533 weeks ago
I appreciate the homefuck.
Amazing show and amazing to be there with tens of thousands of people, not just 'thousands of people'. I really hope this is a windfall for all involved, especially the 3.
Best of the shows I've been to.
3 or 4 songs in Axl says "Good morning!", talks about how he read the "selective annihilation" quote in Civil War in the Chicago Sun Times. "There's bugs in my water - that costs extra!" sometime towards the end of the show.
Oh is that what he said? I couldn't understand him when he spoke. Did he say anything else? lol...bugs cost extra?
#4923 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1/7/16 SOLDIER FIELD, CHICAGO, IL UNITED STATES » 533 weeks ago
Once the reunion started and DTJ was being performed, I was glad homefuck had been ditched. He used it in KC and I wondered if it was by accident as they had performed it so many times in 91-93. Once it happened again in Chicago... I realize its here to stay. Not a dealbreaker obviously but it always seemed a bit cheesy. In its defense, pretty sure he's the person who coined the term so it has that unique twist going for it.
Forum fans had been pointing out its absence. Makes me wonder if it was added due to that.
The appeal of the song to has always been the instrumentals and not so much the lyrics. I see where you're coming from on the "home fuck" front...it certainly isn't a necessary component.
I was thankful to be reintroduced to the illusions songs live that it hardly hit my radar.
Disclaimer: this is not a knock on the set list. I'm thankful for what I got. Doesn't mean I don't wish for more.
#4924 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1/7/16 SOLDIER FIELD, CHICAGO, IL UNITED STATES » 533 weeks ago
Glad you enjoyed the show. Must not be a big fan of DTJ as people have noticed he's brought back the word "homefuck" which had been missing from the song this year.
Forgot about DTJ....honestly they played so many songs I forget some.
DTJ was great....home fuck doesn't bother me none.
Personally I'd like to hear more from UYI.
#4925 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1/7/16 SOLDIER FIELD, CHICAGO, IL UNITED STATES » 533 weeks ago
Now that I'm home, I can share a few of my impressions from the show.
Estranged was REALLY impressive live...did not expect that!
They were all business! Little to no talking...one song after the next...bam bam bam! I was definitely in need of a break about at the point they play TIL...as in a sit down and take a breather.
Coma was really cool also...the peaks and valleys of the song play super well live.
BIG fireworks show during Paradise City really added some over the top pop to an already awesome closer.
So glad to see them back together. I was hoping they would pull out some "alternatve songs" for the Chicago show due to the city's significance to the band...but alas that didn't happen.
#4926 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1/7/16 SOLDIER FIELD, CHICAGO, IL UNITED STATES » 533 weeks ago
The first definitely sold out show of the tour. The first date sold out very fast.
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SETLIST:
I'm at Kaseys on Dearborn. First gnr show.
#4927 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Obsession » 538 weeks ago
Hell yea, I know what you're talking about....
I got into Gn'R for the first time in 1997-98. I was a freshman in high school and I must admit that high school was probably the most difficult phase of my life. I felt so many different emotions for the first time. I had questions that had no answers. I had anger that I didn't know I had. Girls didn't want to touch me with a ten foot pole, a lot of popular guys mercilessly bullied me.
THEN, I popped in my Mom's old cassette tape of Appetite. All the sudden Jungle made sense to me in a way it never made sense before. The anger and frustration of tracks 2 through 5 hit stride with me. The soft and sensitive songs like think about you and SCOM were something I could also get into.
At that time I had heard almost all of appetite, but I had never really digested it. UYI1 and 2 was a set of material that was fresh to me. You Could Be Mine sort of became an anthem for me and got me through to my senior year.
Being a Gn'R fan in 1997, 98, 99 was not a cool thing, especially in northern Wisconsin where popular culture is such that smoking a ton of weed, listening to a jam band play one song for 17 minutes and wearing the same cloths for days on end was considered cool. Old Gn'R spoke to me for more reasons than one. I was a skinny, white kid from a socially regressive mid-western state. Axl gave me a voice and a confidence to focus my angers and frustrations.
So for that, I will forever be thankful.
#4928 Re: Guns N' Roses » 23/4/16 COACHELLA - Weekend 2 » 542 weeks ago
For the record: 69-74 Stones is the greatest band to ever set foot on this planet. They are known as the Mick Taylor years and that was a power house band.
Truer words were never spoken my freind....as they went from exile on main st to goat's to let it bleed....they basically made making music look easy.....EASY!!!
#4929 Re: Guns N' Roses » What's left that the we want added to the set-list? » 543 weeks ago
One in a million with slash on vocals
#4930 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 543 weeks ago
I'm just going to say it, a radical revolution will never happen. Never.
Sanders sunk any chance of it anyway when he dismissed the south, along with Tim Robbins. Even if it happened, and he filled the Senate and Congress with left wingers and they passed everything he wanted, unemployment will rise, taxes will rise, the cost of living will rise, the economy will sink, and that's all coming from Sanders who says that it will all be worth it later on... Unfortunately, in four years a republican will walk in and run on all of those radical things, undo allof them and take over.
Sanders has been in politics his entire adult life. He's been in Washington for over thirty years. He is the establishment.
Trump will torch him on his commie ties and Castro praise. He will destroy him on taxes. On the debt. Giving the IRS more power. On the economy, etc.
No matter what Trump says, the election will be won on kitchen table politics and people will vote for the guy who wants to build an imaginary wall, over the guy who wants to raise your taxes.
How do we know this exactly? How do we know that the economy will sink, taxes get higher....etc? I kinda always thought what he meant was something more like how things were in the 1950s. Under Eisenhower....I think you can do a lot by stopping people from hiding money across the world. How many billions is enough?
I dunno...I don't know if the U.S. deserves to survive. Not in its current form anyway. If this is really the best the world can do...I think I'm disappointed.
