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#17451 Re: Guns N' Roses » First single is If The World? (theory) » 945 weeks ago
Do you think Shackler & If The World will be on the album russ?
Some bands release songs exclusively to soundtracks, and they never see a release on a soundtrack or by the band themselves.
#17452 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR on 'Body of Lies' film soundtrack / confirmed by BP at CD.com » 945 weeks ago
Michael Mann should be directing Body Of Lies and he would know how to use If The World. That guitar solo is crying to be used for a cool movie scene.
You know I was thinking that too. If The World and Song #2 (specifically the outro) sound VERY-Mann and his taste.
#17453 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New GNR vs old GNR/ GNR vs Velvet Revolver thread » 945 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:And that was ONLY because of Axl. That's been stated in countless interviews over the years by band members, and people close to the band.
Axl was the one pushing for another direction, and the rest of the band wanting to stick with the "tried and true" sound. Their initial reaction to songs like Rain & Estranged was utter disgust.
A band consists some members. They make the music, the sound etc. Some can have "vision" while they can't write a single song. Without Slash being a genius, Axl's November Rain would be the most boring song of music history. Some parts are still close to that. Anyway, Slash wrote Coma, didn't he? That's not AFD rehash. Neither Locomotive nor Civil War. I can list his solo career, too: he played in way more styles than on the GN'R records (not counting the guest appearances). Without Axl GN'R would have sucked. Without Slash GN'R would have sucked. Not that sure about the others.
Coma was a big rocker, almost metal. And even though Civil War & Locomotive were big structured songs... so was Paradise City.
It was the same idea, just applied to new songs.
Axl was the one going and doing stuff totally different under the name GN'R, like now. If I had heard AFD, and NOTHING ELSE, and then someone played me November Rain and said that's a GN'R song, i'd been like "WTFH?" It would've been a shock to the system.
In alot of ways GN'R Lies braced fans for the change in some ways. I'm not saying Slash didn't do AMAZING guitar work on the Illusions, but history has shown that he was dragged kicking and screaming to that recording session. Duff also wasn't totally on board with that direction.
Now that we hear some of these CD tracks, we realize were that sole direction came from - Axl. We also understand why the old band couldn't co-exist with each other past 1993... musically they couldn't have been further apart.
#17454 Re: Guns N' Roses » HOLD ON: NY Times reporting deal NOT done! » 945 weeks ago
Oh okay. Yeah Better & The Blues seem to get the most positive feedback. And now Shackler apparently. Non-fans seem to love the track, old Gunners, obviously, hate it.
#17455 Re: Guns N' Roses » First single is If The World? (theory) » 945 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:faldor wrote:Mysteron didn't say Shackler was going to be the first single. He said something along the lines that, the band hopes for it to be the first single. I don't remember the exact quote, but I'm quite certain he didn't say it WOULD 100% be the first single.
Apparently "If The World" isn't going to be on the soundtrack, so I'm not so sure it'll be released as a single after all.
Dude why do you nitpick Mysteron's statements to bail him out of being discredited?
"the band hopes to have it be the first single"
that is exactly the following...
"Shackler is the first single"
And if he's wrong, then for the 900th time he'll be proven an invaluable source.
I'm not nitpicking, just saying he didn't say it would be the first single. He said the band was hoping it would be the first single. Here's the exact quote.
The band are hoping to have 'Shackler's Revenge' as their first single and they are also hoping to have the new album out this year. I know this falls in the 'vague' category but is all I can give right now.
Is it possible the band wanted Shackler's as the first single but got overruled? Hasn't that happened with other bands before? I mean it's possible. I know you like to discredit Mysteron and say he knows nothing and all. I honestly don't know much about him, but I certainly don't know enough to jump on him for lying or misleading us. Maybe you know more about him than I do. I'm just going by what I read.
Anyway, it looks like neither Shackler's or ITW will be the first single. At least that's how it appears from here.
I have nothing personal against Mysteron, I just know his game. Does he have SOME kind of contact? Yes. There's been rumors over the years, he runs the website.
It's just he's been wrong before, and he intentionally words things, just like you picked up on, to bail him out of being discredited. "The band HOPES to have it be the first single". 99% of the world is gonna take that as - "Shackler is the first single".
I just don't automatically buy the guy's statements, and alot of the time it seems preconceived by him how to create contengency words in his statements, to bail him out of any possible discrediting.
If he truely does know it all, and everything, at this point his vague statements are pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain, and he should probably just shut up from now on until a PR comes out.
I personally think Shackler or something else will be the first single. I'm having a hard time believing If The World will be the first single.
#17456 Re: The Garden » McCain lies? Caves? Or Obama was right? » 945 weeks ago
On a points issue, McCain certaintly got some jabs in on Obama, and vice versa. I think it was a draw there.
But on presentation, Obama LOOKED LIKE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT. McCain looked like... well... an Arizona senator running for re-election.
#17457 Re: Guns N' Roses » First single is If The World? (theory) » 945 weeks ago
Dani California is a rocker?
jesus
I guess FNM's "Easy" must be a fist-pumping sleazy arena rock anthem.
#17458 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New GNR vs old GNR/ GNR vs Velvet Revolver thread » 945 weeks ago
While I personally think there's nothing wrong with AFD, the UYI era sound is what really locked me in as a fan. I agree that Axl was more responsible for that then anyone else and thats what keeps me excited about CD.
Agreed, and that's when I caught on as a fan. I sit back and listen to songs like Bad Obsession, Bad Apples & Pretty Tied Up, and people don't really talk about those songs all that much, but I just love that whole fuckin' bluesy thing going on with them, ala Move To The City.
But like Queen, and I just wish Axl would've or hopefully releases more albums, you have songs that do harken back to their earlier sounds, but like every album is something new, with the same band members and same name. I LOVE THAT. God bless AC/DC, but I much more prefer bands or are like film directors, that do something entirely different each album, but leave just a little bit of their classic stamp on it.
I know i'm gonna fucking love CD. Why? It sounds awesome, and it's totally different from previous GN'R records. It might not be 'all original', but neither was their previous albums. You could hear all kinds of influences in their previous albums from bands like Led Zepplin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Hanoi Rocks, Aerosmith, etc. Hell Coma sounds like it could be a Metallica song.
CD is no different. It's GN'R doing their thang with scattered influences and original lyrics and direction by Axl (primarily) with some original input from other members or former members of the band.
I have complete faith in Axl, that the next record, even if it's a 'CD II' will be something different also. More power to him.
#17459 Re: Guns N' Roses » First single is If The World? (theory) » 945 weeks ago
Ehh, I guess the vocals could use a little 'finishing touches'.
But instrumentally - it's ace.
#17460 Re: The Garden » McCain lies? Caves? Or Obama was right? » 945 weeks ago
This is gonna be bad for McCain. It comes across as totally cocky. Not to mention he already has America thinking he's cocky with that whole "i'm suspending my campaign" stunt.
