A few?

To be honest I think it's going to be all of them from the 60s to the 90s. Culture was different in those times, and some of the people around the industry are just that way....

I don't mean to make light of it - but I don't know where you'd even start...you will have people dating underage, having underage sex, having sex with people under the influence of drugs, using drugs , selling drugs, using drugs to get sex, using sex and drugs to get backstage access, physical violence, emotional abuse, narcissistic stuff , predatory behaviour, all kinds of illegal stuff...and that's just the fucking crew and management...who can even know how bad it gets inside the actual fraternities of the bands themselves....but no doubt thousands of times worse.

It's one reason why i always found the outrage at sorum absurd, like have a look at what these people are like on a good day...Axl signs dizzy's girl's vulva, dizzy licks it off, matt gives bazz some loving tips on how to eat pussy, slash passes out and tommy lee takes polarides of Nikki Sixes balls in Slash's face....the crew of metallica is getting hot girls from the audience to prove they can "take the stick" in order to come backstage further...and that's the laughable anecdotes from the fun stuff they tell us for laughs in books and docos.....what the fuck happens on a bad day.....

Had had a brief flirtation with Xanax which started when it was given legally to help treat his anxiety issues he's had since a kid.

He said it was only for a about 2 weeks and then he got himself together again and resumed sobriety.

I think it was during the contraband tour, so officially he should be clean here.

I'm pro-vax and have been vaccinated.

But i have friends that I'm trying to talk around.

There seems to be three groups of deniers:

1. People who believe weird sci-fi conspiracies about it. Such as Bill Gates using it to depopulate the world, or the government using nano tech in it to control/track you, or that world leaders are working for satan and so on. These stories seem to take quotes out of context and selective data to create the fiction. So they will publish with relish the rare cases of people having an adverse reaction to the vaccine as proof that it kills, or they will find quotes about Bill Gates saying vaccination was a way to reduce poverty in the 3rd world (as currently people have 10 kids cos they expect the first 7 to die of preventable illness) and twist them to say he's for overall population reduction and enslaving humanity. Basically it's fun as a movie or troll but insane if you actually believe it.

2. People who just don't understand something bad until it actually happens to them. This is your tough grandpa type. The "we never had shoes when we walked to school so those kids don't need shoes" type people. This group refuses the annual flu fax and uses the fact they've been lucky and never had one of the mortal cases of the flu as proof that the whole thing is unnecessary. It's like the bloke who always drives hope a bit pissed from the pub. It's going to work until the day it doesn't but you can't tell them. Often these people have anecdotal beliefs that are mistaken scientifically - like that the flu vax gave them the flu one time - but it's very hard to get them to see the other side of things. Usually they come around during a disaster though - like once enough people are sick they reconsider the urgency.

3. People who are hesitant about new tech. There's some basis for this - but it pales in comparison to the threat of covid or more specifically the shambles the health system will be with everyone sick with covid. But the logic goes along the lines of "normally we test stuff for 20 years to find out what the long term effects are but we didn't this time" or some people are like "mrna is a new technology and I want a more traditional vaccine". They often point out stuff like the drug companies have been given immunity for prosecution (because they don't understand with the insurance situation that if that didn't happen no one would risk making a vax in a hurry) I have the most sympathy for this group cos it's at least logical. Like in a perfect world we WOULD do a long term study and we wouldn't have had to hurry. But I think these people just need to re-assess their math....like sure...there's chance of some long term side effect discovery from pfizer or something that we don't know - but you got to weigh that up against almost certain chance of exposure to covid in the when we open back up and 30% chance of long haul covid when you get it, 10% chance of hopspital, 6% of ICU and 2% death or whatever the exact numbers are. While there's potential for the vax to be bad it kinda seems like the best choice against the alternative situation.

I have some friends that are refusing, and that have health issues, and when we open up with Delta everywhere in 2 months time, I think they will die...but I literally can't make them see the risks....they just talk politics at me. It's very frustrating.

Yeah, hopefully when they get our vaccination rates up we can open with some precautions.

At the moment we only have 27% fully vaccinated and there's supply issues though so it's a bit of a worry, especially cos those of us locked down are starting to go mental lol. But I'd rather be safe at home than in the ER i guess...so it is what it is until they fix it.