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#5481 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl = Rock God #11 » 905 weeks ago

gnfnraxl wrote:

I could be wrong but I think this list is for stage presence mostly.  And I don't think Lennon was that great in concert, neither is McCartney.

The Beatles were known for their energy live.  It's part of what allowed them to be the biggest rock band ever (to this day).  Granted by the time they were big nobody could hear them, but I think this statement is very, very wrong.

#5482 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR go Gold » 905 weeks ago

BurningHills wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
BurningHills wrote:

Also - just a random thought here, but it's pretty cool regardless:

Best Buy bought roughly 2 million copies up front, right?

502,000 of those copies have been sold since November 23rd.

So, that means that in it's first month and a half of release, Best Buy has sold roughly 1/4th of it's entire stock.

That's pretty damn impressive.

At a discount and over a 6-7 week period when it was the ONLY place you could purchase it in the US.  Not so impressive.

How do you figure?

It was available at ONE store. It's been out for only 6 weeks, and 1/4th of the entire stock was sold. How is that possibly bad in any way, shape, or form?

Huh?  It was available at one store and online where anybody that wanted it could get it.  Then it was put on sale.  Soon it will be in the bargain bin.  Had best buy bought that many copies AND people could buy it anywhere, THAT would be impressive.  This isn't.

#5483 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR go Gold » 905 weeks ago

BurningHills wrote:

Also - just a random thought here, but it's pretty cool regardless:

Best Buy bought roughly 2 million copies up front, right?

502,000 of those copies have been sold since November 23rd.

So, that means that in it's first month and a half of release, Best Buy has sold roughly 1/4th of it's entire stock.

That's pretty damn impressive.

At a discount and over a 6-7 week period when it was the ONLY place you could purchase it in the US.  Not so impressive.

#5484 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 905 weeks ago

Gunslinger wrote:

Two songs in the top 20, the album still well in the top 40 after 6 weeks (#30) and number 8 top selling artist in 2008 for Canada. I don't think it's the huge failure many claimed.  I remember several people saying it would fall of the charts quickly.  After six weeks being #30 I'd say it isn't doing all that bad all things considered.  If this album even had a LITTLE realistic promo it's hard telling what could have been but I still say we'll see platinum by spring.

If the songs were 5 and 14 on the overall singles list, I'd agree with you.  The songs are 19 and 20 on a sub board (mainstream rock), not the overall singles chart.  Let's also note that Metallica (off the album a lot have said sucks) has 2 songs ahead of them on that same chart.  The album is 30 (down from 25).  That's embarrassing for a brand (yes, brand, not band) like Guns N' Roses.  How many of the 29 above them have been out as long or longer?  21.  Let's put the numbers into some perspective.  21 albums have been out as long or longer and are still pushing more copies than they are.  Want to know one of the albums that beat it this week?  The 99 Most Essential Beethoven Masterpieces.  Ouch.

Yes, #30 is better than I thought it would be at this point.  That doesn't mean it's not a failure, it just means it's not quite the failure I thought it would be.  I still consider it a huge, huge failure.  Nobody in the real world is talking about it and people here aren't really talking about it anymore either.  We can't even get more than a couple GnR threads going and one of them is an elimination thread.  The wrestling thread is the most interesting thing going on here, and everybody here loves GnR in some way or another.

It's time to face the fact that the album is a failure.  There are many reasons for this and not all of them are related to the music.  Even though I hate a lot of the songs, I can see compelling cases for the album being strong musically (I don't agree, but people have made solid cases stating this).  Let's not start hanging our hats on "it's not as big a failure as some people thought it would be" because a failure is a failure regardless of the proportion of it.

#5485 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 905 weeks ago

Maybe they can take the Better video and just change the song and release it as whatever the next disaster single is going to be.  Releasing a Better video now would be a waste.

#5486 Re: Guns N' Roses » LARS ULRICH Holding Up Release of GNR 'Better' Video? » 905 weeks ago

Nobody cares about the truth anymore.  It's more fun to speculate and ridicule.

#5487 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 5 » 905 weeks ago

tylerdurden wrote:

catcher

I love Calvin and Hobbes.  Someone needs to start a thread about them and start with the anotomically correct snowman cartoon.

Sorry, carry on.

#5490 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl = Rock God #11 » 905 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

I wont mention that Slash is #8 16

Me neither.

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