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#6281 Re: Guns N' Roses » I wish someone would leak the damn thing... » 944 weeks ago
The album isn't going to leak. It's more valuable now than it was a week ago if you're a hoarder. Why leak something that's nowhere near being released?
#6282 Re: Guns N' Roses » If Finck is gone..... » 944 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:bigbri wrote:I'm afraid Bucket ain't coming back. He's having too much fun actually putting out music for his fans.
When did you move to Brookfield? A big BH fan living in a town known for it's zoo. The irony...
Funny you noticed that. We just moved last week. It's been crazy. The zoo is awesome, we're members and will be there every weekend.
I've been to that zoo many times. It's miles better than Lincoln Park Zoo. Enjoy the new pad!
#6283 Re: Guns N' Roses » My Current Theory » 944 weeks ago
I respect your optimism.
#6284 Re: Guns N' Roses » What IF Robin Finck has left GNR. Will you still follow GNR? » 944 weeks ago
See the AFD tours for the past 5 years as proof of that.
That is not the same. That tour was done 15 years after the release of the album, not 1 month after the release of the album which might happen in this case.
You got the nostalgia factor, the PR factor, the money factor and the comeback factor.
Touring a new album without the proper band members is just loose money factor.
It may not be the same, but it's not as different as you think. A band that isn't Guns N' Roses touring around the world as though it is Guns N' Roses because one person was smart enough to take control of the name isn't much different than that same band that isn't Guns N' Roses touring as Guns N' Roses to support an album that was 15 years in the making and SEVERAL of the people who contributed are no longer associated with the band. It's all fucked up, thus far more similar than you want to give it credit for.
#6285 Re: Guns N' Roses » What IF Robin Finck has left GNR. Will you still follow GNR? » 944 weeks ago
To tour the friggin album without your main guitarist is fucked up.
See the AFD tours for the past 5 years as proof of that.
I'm not saying I like it, I'm just saying that's how it is and how it's been. It's a joke, it's been a joke, but only now people are finally starting to realize it. I've been mocked for several years for saying that this isn't really a band and hasn't been since 1994. I knew that once Robin or Tommy bailed that I'd be proven right, but for some reason I don't feel better. I'm sure people assume I'm ecstatic because of all of this, but I'm really not. My heart was hoping I was wrong, but my head knew I wasn't.
I wanted CD out. I wanted it out years ago hoping that Axl could get his project out of his system and get back to his rock band and Guns could continue the way it was meant to be. That's how it should have happened, but now it's too late. At their age, no matter what happens (reunion or CD release) going forward, it will be a nostolgia act. CD could be the greatest piece of music ever invented (lol) and it wouldn't have a major impact on the music scene today. It would be like the Eagles - it would get some play and fade away into nothingness. The diehards would still support them and obviously a reunion would be significantly bigger than a CD release, but again, only as a nostolgia act. It's over. We can still love them, but there will be no Guns N' Roses changing the face of music in any form. That is why it really doesn't matter what musicians Axl hires going forward.
#6286 Re: Guns N' Roses » What IF Robin Finck has left GNR. Will you still follow GNR? » 944 weeks ago
If Robin is gone, nothing will change. He's just another in the long line of interchangeable parts. For years people have said if Robin or Tommy leaves, it's over or they won't support GnR any more. It's all a bunch of crap for the most part. I can't even fathom the thought of a GnR album without Slash, but despite the fact that I don't like a lot of decisions Axl has made, I'm still hanging around to see what he can come up with. The fact is that almost nobody is a fan of the band because of Robin - they may have become a fan of Robin because of the band, but not very many became fans of the band because Robin joined.
GnR should have died when Slash left and it didn't - there's no way in hell it's going to die when someone who hasn't even appeared on an album yet leaves. It's not going to happen. As long as Axl holds the rights to the name, the band will continue to exist in some form or another and people will for the most part always be interested every few years when he surfaces regardless of who surrounds him.
#6287 Re: Guns N' Roses » Everyone show your support for R o B i N with an exclusive new skin » 944 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Everything starts somewhere. Honest answer. It was unnecessary. I take everything pretty seriously if you haven't figured that out yet.
First we're changing skins, next thing we're monitoring your phone calls...
Really, it's not that hard. If you don't like it, you can always change it to whatever you like... it's not like the rest of the skins were deleted and you have to look at the fuzzy troll doll all day. It's your choice if you want to change it. What does it take, like 5 seconds?
Not long...I did it 3 or 4 days ago...then for some reason I had to do it again. How long it takes isn't really the point. It's not for the staff to decide or declare (or whatever you want to call it) who we support and who we don't.
1. Create a new skin. (done)
2. Create a thread announcing the new skin. (done)
3. Encourage people to support Robin by switching to the new skin. (done)
None of this is a problem for me. The problem is unilaterally changing everybody's skin to support somebody that not everybody supports (that's been made very, very clear over the years and in another thread currently getting attention). It was a bad decision that I was willing to let go with a little joke, but now it's become a much bigger deal than I or the powers that be intended.
Let's just drop it. I've made it clear how I feel and why I feel that way and others have stated their thoughts. Sounds like a good ending to me. 
#6288 Re: Guns N' Roses » If Finck is gone..... » 944 weeks ago
I'm afraid Bucket ain't coming back. He's having too much fun actually putting out music for his fans.
When did you move to Brookfield? A big BH fan living in a town known for it's zoo. The irony...
#6289 Re: Guns N' Roses » Everyone show your support for R o B i N with an exclusive new skin » 944 weeks ago
Everything starts somewhere. Honest answer. It was unnecessary. I take everything pretty seriously if you haven't figured that out yet.
#6290 Re: Guns N' Roses » Everyone show your support for R o B i N with an exclusive new skin » 944 weeks ago
As far as calling this place a communist regime, you know thats bullshit. I kinda view this site like the Green Bay Packers. Everyone in the community has stock in it. Its the people here that make this site worthwhile, not skins or who the "regime" is.
Showing general support for Finck at GNR Evolution is NOT forcing any belief system down anyones throat.
James Lofton making a Packers reference...sweet. 
I do know it's bullshit james, but prior to yesterday, I also thought I knew that I'd never have to open the site and stare at Finck. What we know changes - it's always changing. Making a thread letting everybody know a new skin was created was plenty. Changing everybody to that skin was the first time between this site and the former site that I ever felt I was being told to support something that I didn't want to support. I didn't like the way that made me feel. I vocalized it as a joke initially, but more seriously when you assumed I'd be all for it if it were a Slash skin.
There has to be a better way to show support than that. Send him an e-card. Write him a poem. Create a new section of the forum just for him. I'd be extremely supportive of any of those.
