haha! Fair point! It's just for me as a fan of the band, it's a shame to see them screw up the international release (at least in Australia).

The situation is this - we have no best buy over here - suposedly CD will hit our regular record stores in 12 days (according to the 22nd Nov date given online by the store) - yet I walk into the pysical store - and there's no posters or info on it - you go to the hard rock section and there's a poster up for Death Magnetic that says "pre-order now for September 9th" and some posters up for a Megadeth greatest hits and a couple of other thrash bands I forget the name of. Australia has a decent fan following of GNR, I mean there's tributes bands that make an ok living belting out AFD in pubs, i'm sure if they put up a little sign like they've done with metallica or Ac/Dc then people would order it. So then I ask at the counter - and the guys just laugh at me and tell me its all rumour and speculation and it won't happen...he follows it down with "If i had a dollar for every time a joker had asked me for chinese democracy in the last 3 years" You can tell them about the Best Buy in the USA, and he just makes a joke about Dr Pepper and maintains that none of it will happen. So you point him to the aussie radio site with it on but he still doesn't believe. Maybe this guy is just a muppet..but it should be undeniable...like there should be a poster up...

Then i come on here and people are pre-ordering and getting the single free. Or buying it on itunes. But aussie itunes doesn't have it. Napster doesn't sell to skum like us. WTF?!!

I mean I don't want the world to end. it's just an album. And like ok - maybe the disbelif from the stores and all that is deserved from the years of waiting or whatever - but at the end of the day - all bullshit aside - GNR is a big brand - not as big as it was in 1991 maybe - but it's still a known name based on the historical importance of stuff like SCOM and that kind of thing. There's a reason these songs get into GH and that kind of thing. OR they're mentioned in guitar mags to this day and stuff. People remember GNR from back in the day, and while it may not destroy the world, there's definately a fan base - both hard core like us, and more causal rock listeners who would have some interest in a GNR record if only they knew it was going to happen.

Anyway...it's great that it's finally happening in the usa, but here in australia it seems like it's going to "just appear on the shelf" like Axl said wouldn't happen. And while australia is a tiny insignificant place in world market terms - it makes me wonder how many other international markets are being wasted.

I don't mean to be negative. I just think this is a good album, GNR is a famous brand name, and the general situation over here is not worthy of what an equivilant band would be doing, and that's a shame for everyone - fans, axl, record company and the like.

For the love of god why is this still not on the australian store

I agree...there's a lot of people out there who would jump on a special buy of some kind - be it a physical CD in limited amounts, extra songs or whatever.

I hate the 128kb..but it's only until i buy the CD and then I can listen to it in lossless on itunes.

I just wish the single was for sale here. As its STILL not on the aussie store

I will buy it the day that it comes out on the Australian site. But am still waiting for that to happen. Does anyone know if there will be a physical CD single or isn't that done much anymore?

yeah I'm not really expecting talkshows and stuff. But I want things like a poster at my record store, or an add in the music press. Maybe something like an interview with bumble in guitar magazines....just standard stuff.