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elevendayempire
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Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

It's actually not that strange when you think about it. I suspect Axl wasn't really running a "parallel GN'R" with people like Sid Riggs and Gary Sunshine; they were there to lay down tracks on Axl's demos that he was presenting to the band. Remember, Axl's a singer and pianist, not a guitarist or a drummer; he's also a bit of a perfectionist. I could envision a scenario where he's thinking, "I've got an idea for a song with a riff that goes 'Ba-danga-danga-chugga-TWANG' but I can't play the guitar and drum parts myself. Before I present it to Slash and Duff I want to make sure it sounds good, so I'll get these session guys to work it up as a demo..."

Tobias obviously did contribute song ideas because at that point Axl saw him as Izzy's replacement, and a full member of the band.

James
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Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

James wrote:

It's actually not that strange when you think about it.

The band had never had a revolving door of musicians....until that point.

It's pretty strange. IMO it's the last thing they needed at that point in time. It's diluting everything, they're quickly losing the plot, and how can issues get resolved in such an environment?

I suspect Axl wasn't really running a "parallel GN'R" with people like Sid Riggs and Gary Sunshine; they were there to lay down tracks on Axl's demos that he was presenting to the band.

The shadow lineups thing is an established fact. Were they actually IN one of these lineups or just orbiting them? We don't know... although I do lean more in your direction when it comes to these specific guys.

I'm amazed that anyone could keep track of the whole thing. On top of various concurrently running lineups, there's instrumentals on the Village Sessions discs that are clearly not even GNR.... it's Bucket, Brain, Scaturro, and God only knows who else.

Can you imagine any band not named Steely Dan operating like this?

Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

Sky Dog wrote:

Lol...Steely Dan never built a chicken coop in the studio for a crazy mofo with a KFC chicken bucket on his head. bucket

James
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Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

James wrote:
Sky Dog wrote:

Lol...Steely Dan never built a chicken coop in the studio for a crazy mofo with a KFC chicken bucket on his head. bucket

Or supplied anyone with dog shit.....

Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

Sky Dog wrote:

And porn videos! You can’t make it up...

FlashFlood
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Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

FlashFlood wrote:
Sky Dog wrote:

And porn videos! You can’t make it up...

It actually sounds so absurd I think it may indeed be made up/exaggerated.

James
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Re: Who wrote Oklahoma?

James wrote:

It's not made up. He was just taking the piss at that point....who wouldn't....and seeing how far he could go.

An obvious mistake in hindsight. The other members already didn't like him. That shit didn't help.

Tommy: "I'd like to shit in his bucket."

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